WelshDevilRob Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Rumours are abound that Chisora will face new EBU champion Robert Helenius. Erkan Teper was stripped of the title and Helenius defeated German Franz Rill in December for the vacant strap. With the news of Teper's positive drug sample. Why hasn't the Price vs Teper result been declared a No Contest? Reports emerged that Teper failed a drugs test soon after the contest, with Price's promoter Kalle Sauerland questioning why it had taken five months for the positive test to come to light. On Wednesday, the German Boxing Board publicly confirmed Teper's offence, banning the 33-year-old, who had picked up the European title against Price, for two years, with the suspension lasting until July 17, 2017. Price now possesses a professional record of 19 wins and two defeats, although one of his previous defeats to Thompson is considered controversial after Thompson tested positive for hydrochlorothiazide (Source: Sportsmole) The BDB disqualifies Erkan Teper from his latest fight, i. e. EBU European Heavyweight Championship vs. David Price on 17 July 2015 in Ludwigsburg, Germany under supervision of the BDB, and states that said fight is to be scored a NO CONTEST. The EBU however maintains the original result Teper WKO 2/12 stating that the title becomes vacant but the result stands. (Source Boxrec) This is the second opponent that has allegedly cheated against David Price - Thompson first then Teper. Is David Price basically undefeated? Should Price get the first crack at the Helenius vs Chisora winner and who do you think wins that fight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Re: Chisora vs Helenius 2 and David Price's situation Well, the politics are crazy here, but forgetting who might actually deserve what: (I'm not sure ANY of these guys deserve ANYTHING, to be frank) 1: Chisora is a much safer fight for Helenius, who is still shaking off ring rust. 2: Far too many people actually give Chisora credit for his fight against Helenius. Sure, he deserved to get a decision, but only because Helenius literally fought him with torn ligaments in his shoulder, and a busted hand after about the second round. - And it was still a somewhat close battle. Chisora should have retired in shame. So, a rematch is badly needed. 3: No matter what Price's opponents may have been on, he still looked like a deer lost in the headlights in all of those fights. He needs to keep fighting journeymen for a while, and then somehow figure out how to be an elite fighter, if that's even possible. 4: Why hasn't the Price vs Teper result been declared a No Contest? Probably because, as with so many similar situations in the past, the bookies made a killing on the result. If they overturn the result, what happens? Better to just have a rematch down the road, and sell all those tickets. Same as it ever was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_budweiser Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Re: Chisora vs Helenius 2 and David Price's situation 1: Chisora is a much safer fight for Helenius, who is still shaking off ring rust. I agree and disagree. All depends what kind of shape Chisora turns up in but I do think he is capable of winning against Helenius who I don't rate at all. 2: Far too many people actually give Chisora credit for his fight against Helenius. Sure, he deserved to get a decision, but only because Helenius literally fought him with torn ligaments in his shoulder You have to give Chisora credit, he was the underdog and had to travel to Helenius backyard and frankIy I thought he was robbed as the fight wasn't even close. I know they said the injury happened weeks prior to the fight but I don't buy that at all. If the injury was genuine they he would of pulled out not continued with the fight, an excuse for his poor performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Re: Chisora vs Helenius 2 and David Price's situation --- Get a fork out, Dumb Boy is done as far as any potential. A gatekeeper on his best day, he too long been circling the drain. Helenius by KO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Re: Chisora vs Helenius 2 and David Price's situation I agree and disagree. All depends what kind of shape Chisora turns up in but I do think he is capable of winning against Helenius who I don't rate at all. You have to give Chisora credit, he was the underdog and had to travel to Helenius backyard and frankIy I thought he was robbed as the fight wasn't even close. I know they said the injury happened weeks prior to the fight but I don't buy that at all. If the injury was genuine they he would of pulled out not continued with the fight, an excuse for his poor performance. No, Sauerland MADE him take the fight. There were numerous articles & interviews about this, both then and much later. It was even part of Helenius' lawsuit against Sauerland, which eventually got dropped. (let's face it, Sauerland is the mob.) They basically ruined him the same way they ruined Boytsov. This is not some fantasy. Plus, you can clearly see in that fight that Robb was in pain, and holding back his right hand. It's not even worthy of debate. --------------------------------- Now, I do agree with you that Chisora has the POTENTIAL to give Helenius trouble, but only if he was in the shape of his life and massively motivated. Sadly, that Chisora doesn't exist any more, if it ever did. He's just a gatekeeper now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_budweiser Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Re: Chisora vs Helenius 2 and David Price's situation No, Sauerland MADE him take the fight. There were numerous articles & interviews about this, both then and much later. It was even part of Helenius' lawsuit against Sauerland, which eventually got dropped. (let's face it, Sauerland is the mob.) They basically ruined him the same way they ruined Boytsov. This is not some fantasy. Plus, you can clearly see in that fight that Robb was in pain, and holding back his right hand. It's not even worthy of debate. --------------------------------- Now, I do agree with you that Chisora has the POTENTIAL to give Helenius trouble, but only if he was in the shape of his life and massively motivated. Sadly, that Chisora doesn't exist any more, if it ever did. He's just a gatekeeper now. Is there any info online about Helenius' case? I can't recall it too much to be honest. Surely if a fighter cant take the fight due to a injury then a promoter can't force them to fight????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Re: Chisora vs Helenius 2 and David Price's situation --- Most enter a fight with various injuries so of course promoters and even mgrs expect a fighter to tough it out as Manny did recently. Just think of brave little pinky toe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSMFC64 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Re: Chisora vs Helenius 2 and David Price's situation I see Chisora was added to last nights Sauerland Card he won in Rd 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted January 10, 2016 Author Share Posted January 10, 2016 Re: Chisora vs Helenius 2 and David Price's situation I see Chisora was added to last nights Sauerland Card he won in Rd 2 Yeah heard that. Fair play he is being kept busy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSMFC64 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Re: Chisora vs Helenius 2 and David Price's situation Dillian Whyte called out Derek Chisora today on TV-Chisora replied 'bring it on anytime' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Re: Chisora vs Helenius 2 and David Price's situation Dillian Whyte called out Derek Chisora today on TV-Chisora replied 'bring it on anytime' That's actually a pretty good matchup! - Though I can't see why Chisora would take it. He probably thinks his recent win puts him back in the title mix, which of course it doesn't. Maybe reality will slap him in the face. I sure hope so. It would be a great opportunity for Whyte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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