LondonRingRules Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Local media is further substantiating that Miguel Cotto will be challenging Sergio Martinez June 7th in Madison Square Garden, now that's the fight to be at! Might also well be emblematic of the growing PPV strength of non American PPV fights. Boxing News | Boxing Buzz: Cotto-Martinez, WBC election, Golovkin odds, Arslan plans, Floyd Super Bowl wager, NSAC update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmeling Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Re: Cotto vs Martinez Coming Soon: Can't wait to see Maravilla again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted January 30, 2014 Author Share Posted January 30, 2014 Re: Cotto vs Martinez Coming Soon: Can't wait to see Maravilla again. --- Latest is that Martinez signed off and is only waiting for Cotto to fill in the catchweight he wants and of course his signature. Gonna go crazy as the Garden on fightnight, guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo2 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Re: Cotto vs Martinez Coming Soon: Martinez will take a serious beating here no doubt!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermid bex Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Re: Cotto vs Martinez Coming Soon: can't wait for this, think martinez will be too strong, and cotto will get broken down late....can't believe martinez getting his name first on the billing instead of cotto was considered by sergios team as the last 20% of the contract to be finalized and agreed to.....he must really have wanted it called martinez v cotto for it to be 20% lol ..anyway in the end it is beign called cotto v matinez, only fair, cotto is the bigger ppv star, and c comes b4 M in the alphabet :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Re: Cotto vs Martinez Coming Soon: Great matchup! - And safer than some other options. I hope Maravilla wins this in spectacular fashion, and then RETIRES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selij Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Re: Cotto vs Martinez Coming Soon: No belts on the line and yet another "catchweight made for PPV"- cant wait - might as well do away with the weight divisions.................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoztheMadman Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Re: Cotto vs Martinez Coming Soon: Martinez will take a serious beating here no doubt!! Think so? He does have a considerable height advantage and he has been fighting at 160 some time...don't quite see Cotto breaking him down. But I do believe it will be a good fight, for as long as it lasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Re: Cotto vs Martinez Coming Soon: Martinez has had time to heal his broken bones while Cotto seems to have found new vigor under Freddie Roach. Can't wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoztheMadman Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Re: Cotto vs Martinez Coming Soon: Didn't know Cotto had become a mw...is the fight at 160 or 154?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selij Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Re: Cotto vs Martinez Coming Soon: Silly catch-weight .......again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoztheMadman Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Re: Cotto vs Martinez Coming Soon: Silly catch-weight .......again. There's one word I'd like to fuckin' ERASE from boxing vocabulary- forever! :mad2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selij Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 (edited) Re: Cotto vs Martinez Coming Soon: "Catch weight" used to be used when by an unforeseen catastrophe one of the fighters could not make the weight in a given fight and because everyone had a vested interest in it going ahead, it was agreed to still fight it - after the final weigh-in had been had. [With a difference in the purses or whatever was deemed appropriate.] Nowadays, they are setting up catch-weights just for the sake of PPV. And the biggest culprit is [was] Sulaiman and the WBC [of late, historically not the case]. There is no belt on the line here and neither fighter is the same weight class............... Edited February 1, 2014 by selij Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 Re: Cotto vs Martinez Coming Soon: "Catch weight" used to be used when by an unforeseen catastrophe one of the fighters could not make the weight in a given fight and because everyone had a vested interest in it going ahead, it was agreed to still fight it - after the final weigh-in had been had. [With a difference in the purses or whatever was deemed appropriate.] Nowadays, they are setting up catch-weights just for the sake of PPV. And the biggest culprit is [was] Sulaiman and the WBC [of late, historically not the case]. There is no belt on the line here and neither fighter is the same weight class............... --- Biggest culprits are promoters and fighters who want the catchweight fights rightly or wrongly just so they can lure so and so into the ring to make some money and acclaim. Catchweights are contract weights, not overweights. All the divisions below the heavyweight open division are catchweight divisions, becoming part and parcel of the history of boxing then, now, and forever more. BTW, I would point out that Martinez was a natural welter/jrmiddle who only moved up to middle for big fights. His biggest fight was the rematch with Paul Williams at a 158 lb catchweight that nobody hollered about because they're not Manny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 Re: Cotto vs Martinez Coming Soon: Nowadays, they are setting up catch-weights just for the sake of PPV --- Well, of course in days of yore, all they had was the gate, but nowadays, yesteryears, and tomorrows, bottom line is catchweights are set up to make money. Hence the latest official tease from Cotto camp announcing the fight as near done deal save "formalities" at, gasp, a 159 lb catchweight, no doubt designed to set off roaming packs of anti social ninnies like a Chinese firecracker factory. Here it is in the torpid month of February with only another 3G beatdown off an overmatched opponent for sustenance, and fans are already near frothing over these HOFers near retirement girding for one last great fight. Boxing News | Cotto-Martinez at 159lb catch weight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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